Episode Transcript
Kyle James (00:01) Hey, welcome to the AI Chronicles podcast. I'm your host, Kyle James. Today we're going to be discussing how a professional training and coaching company called Center of Liberation was able to scale its business by helping companies navigate transformative change through conscious leadership and guiding C-suite, specifically C-suite leaders to unlock human potential in an age of rapid technology evolution. If you're in the professional training coaching space, then you need to listen closely. Have you found that your AI agent is hallucinating or just mishandling basic conversations? Speak to GPD Trainer. GPD Trainer fully manages your AI agent for you, eliminating hallucinations for good, while also drastically improving your AI agent's response. Go to gpttrainer.com to learn more. So for our guest today on the show, have... Sean Cauldry is who is a CEO and founder of Center of Liberation, a Colorado based business advisor and quantum reinvention strategist with a forward thinking mindset. With over 15 years of experience guiding C-suite executives, Sean brings a rare blend of both business savvy and metaphysical depth to her work in conscious leadership and transformation. She's also the co-founder of Arena of Life, a platform focused on both personal and organizational evolution. Originally from South Africa and once a top ranked squash player, now channels her competitive edge into the visionary leaders that navigate change and also into the new space that she's in. So welcome to the show, Sean. How are you doing so far? Sjeanne (01:44) Hmm. So good to be here, Carl. And thanks so much for having me. I'm excited to have this conversation with your audience. And we're in just such a curious time in history. So it's great timing. Kyle James (01:54) Yeah, I think that's the best way. Definitely a curious time. Fast moving rapid. So, but tell us, so how did you get started with Center of Liberation? what, give us that context so we have some good background. Sjeanne (02:04) Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, great. Thanks, Carl. So originally, I'm from South Africa, I've been in the United States for the last year and a half. And so, you know, coming from South Africa, I was in the corporate investment banking space in a global and very well known corporate investment bank, working with, you know, all our high level C-suite CEOs, business unit heads on, you know, being a business, basically their advisor and strategist to growing and scaling the business. And my wife is originally American, so she's from America. We've spent a few years in South Africa, which is amazing and made our way here. so, you know, knowing that I was going to be making my way here, I also knew that I had a bigger and broader message to bring to the world. I'm a forward thinker by heart, so I pay attention to the big mega trends. I'm not talking about the little trends, major mega trends that have shaped humanity. And so Center of Liberation, I knew was being born and came into fruition, obviously. on the actual move. it was, you know, there's a for a futurist hat, Leonard, and he a great quote that that really kind of propelled me a couple of years ago to think deeply about how to take my life, my career forward. And the quote is, you know, the world will change now more in the next 20 years than the previous 300. I'm going to say that again, because it's important to be paying attention, the world will change more now in the next 20 years than the previous Kyle James (03:26) Wow. Sjeanne (03:34) years 300. And so I already took that and spent a couple of years before obviously the move really understanding and unpacking what that means in the context of these mega trends, and what was going to happen. And we are now in it's happening. It's not the world is not going to change. It has changed. We are in that period of 20 years. And and so Center of Liberation, I worked deeply to prepare myself and the business before moving to the States to be able to for people to be able to focus on the 1%. Kyle James (04:00) Right, Wow. That's incredible. And I like how you said like the mega train, right? Like going from, I mean, 300 years to 20 years. That's such a fat. mean, I think I can't help but think of like, Sjeanne (04:07) Mmm. in the app. Kyle James (04:15) You know, my wife and I, traveled to the East coast just recently and a drive out there would take 20 hours, but we flew instead, but in the flights three hours long. And that's how I feel. feel like we've gone from, we're traveling on the, on the ground to we're now flying in the air. And then in this case in AI, it's like, we're going from flying tour. Now we're in space going 10,000 miles per hour. And like, it's not, it's not going to stop. So you mentioned the mega mega train. how is that? I want to, I want to probe on that a little bit here. Sjeanne (04:36) Yeah. Mm. Mm. Kyle James (04:45) Like how is that, how did you take that new kind of perspective and mindset and apply it to center of liberation and especially for your, for your C-suite, you know, executive clients that you're working with. Sjeanne (04:57) Yeah, so important. you know, there's four major mega trends that I focus on, and there's there's others. But the four that I'm involved in and focus on is digital assets. So it's crypto. and which ties into blockchain and we're seeing a lot of legitimization now across the globe. It's obviously government levels. I look at AI and this wave of AI and how it's commoditized intelligence and taken scarce intelligence of our intellect and now made it commoditized and gone into abundance intelligence. There's a woman's world transfer along with other world transfers and then the rise in consciousness. So looking at those and saying, okay, now with the amalgamation, what does this all mean for us? Kyle James (05:21) Sure. Sjeanne (05:35) really lends itself to our work with clients to really codify their 1%. This book was born out of the idea I come from a bit you mentioned squash. So I've had various instances where I am in the 1 % squash. I was the top 23 in the world. You know, in my, my day, I, you know, I've done various things I got involved in crypto, you know, a little bit early on that's in the top 1 % you're immigrating, it's like top 1%. And so, you know, I got into the corporate space, corporate investment banking very late in life, which is, you know, and I didn't actually have a financial background to another Kyle James (06:09) Mm-hmm. Sjeanne (06:12) example of 1%. And, and what is that I work with clients to the way forward and through this is to really cultivate and harness your rarefied 1 % your unique profitability space because it is about how do you because if intelligence is commoditized, Kyle James (06:28) Yeah. Sjeanne (06:30) And we're going through what I term the great D templating. So AI has kind of taken us into the great D templating. What is great D templating mean? It means anything logical left brain, anything your old strategies of success, your strategies of strategizing, your strategies of coaching and skills based, you know, skill sets are now commoditized. into a huge database and there's various applications of that. And so now what becomes my value as a human being? How do I walk into the world and derive revenue and profitability? What will people pay me for? Because AI, I work with AI extensively and in some ways it is like Kyle James (06:56) Hmm. ⁓ Sjeanne (07:11) You know, it's blown my mind and digital assets, you know my moments of truth when I watched You know Bitcoin at the point in time where I was interested in it and working to bring it into the bank and etc It was a thousand dollars already had it gone from one cent to a thousand dollars. What are we a hundred nine thousand dollars taste? So people are not Kyle James (07:30) Yeah, something like that Sjeanne (07:32) the world's changed, the world's changed, like it's changed. It's not changing. It's not coming. So people getting on board and understanding well now what does that mean in the context of my value and what I'm going to be paid for? I need to be thinking very hard and deeply about that in the context of this new time that timeline that we are in. So codifying your rare essence. that magnetizes and that you know, I've got a framework. So it's your rare essence, Kyle James (07:56) Right. Sjeanne (07:58) it is your resonance, which is your energy, will now be working in the field of frequency energy and hence quantum reinvention strategist and business advisor, because that is the accelerator time and that ties into the rising consciousness that is accelerating that and we're operating at different frequencies. I look at then reinvention and it's not a one-stop reinvention because AI and digital assets, I mean, you just look at those two areas. Kyle James (08:05) Yeah. Sjeanne (08:22) they already change significantly and then revenue and how do you derive profitability pools. You can throw the women's wealth transfer on top of that and so we're in a very curious time. Kyle James (08:29) Yeah. Yeah. And talking about AI, mean, I'm one, I'm in it in AI and I still get scared at sometimes just looking at all the change happening. And, for those who are out there listening and they have seen AI, they they've probably dabbled with, you know, chat, GBT and other large language. And what would you say is like, maybe the biggest fear you've seen from coaches right now when it comes to, to AI. Sjeanne (08:58) Hmm, relevance. What am going to pay for? I already am very I've stopped using, you know, I'm always a person who wants to develop and grow and and, you know, use people who have done it before as mentors or sponsors or coaches, etc. And I already have cut back and scaled back significantly. Why? Because AI has offered me on a whole different trajectory in terms of what I'm able to produce, what I'm able to give to the world that I have not experienced in a coaching space before. So I think it's around the relevance and coaches around the globe. We'll need to take time to really again go into what is it what is the 1 % and really unpack what is that 1 % because like I said, the skills based is going to be honed in a database and the more people engage with AI and we there's something called the network effect and network effect is that we're not at the network effect yet. So like a hockey stick, you have people engaging, engaging and we're starting to see it, let's say in the crypto and Bitcoin world and hence, you've got governments now creating Bitcoin reserves, you're starting to see the network effect. Kyle James (10:00) Right, right. Sjeanne (10:01) effect. AI is is we're not there yet we're building up to it. But it's a question of time. And I think it's when I say it's a question of time. It's not a long time. You know, Bitcoin took 13 years to get to a point where you've got governments creating, you know, strategic reserves. We don't have that. And my my invitation to coaches is that if you're still offering results orientated skills orientated you know, more, let's say you're very performance orientated coaching that's going to have to evolve. Because what AI can't do AI can't tune into in other words, it's like having a baby, right? I don't have a baby, but I've got a dog. And that was enough is like my motherhood. But most you know, a of people do and when you get birth to something, it's messy, you don't have the rulebook, you don't have the playbook, you got to figure it out as parents. AI is a little bit like that. Kyle James (10:38) Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. Sjeanne (10:48) We're in the birth stages and a lot of people are confused when you're seeing systemically there is confusion. So for me, it's about relevant relevance for coaches and it's like where am I going to derive revenue and profitability? Why? Because they systemically globally confusion in the system and a level of stackness. Why? Because we are on this new territory. We are on Kyle James (10:59) Hmm. Sjeanne (11:09) new time, I call them timelines, new realities, because we're in this 20 year window. And it's not happening slowly. And so you're looking at your clients, the nature of their problems have changed. And so what's what's happening is that many coaches are, in my view, are still offering solutions tailored to old paradigms, old timelines. And people know that something's changed, their clients, you know, even my clients, my CEOs, they know something's changed, but they're not 100 % sure what has changed. And so the coaches have got to look at this context. You like that when you have a baby, you it wants to be fed now, but you got to look at the context of the baby. I can't look at the context of the baby. I can't look at the context of a person's life. It can only look at like a particular sliver based on certain for now. And then the other thing that Kyle James (11:39) Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah. Sjeanne (12:03) I, the other thing I can't do is it can't access new information, it can't access, we have consciousness and we have soul and that's why I say that the rise in consciousness, how do we access new information, we access it, hence the word quantum from the field, new information comes from ideas from the field that has to be channeled through individuals and humans for now. And that's the soul's work, that's our energy work, that's our spiritual work, that's our consciousness work. That information is in what I call geometric patterns. All information is carried in a field of possibility. And if your audience believes in possibility, then this will resonate with them. So new ideas are carried in the field of possibility. It is our role to become transmitters of those new ideas. And I believe that as part of the evolution of coaches is how do they open themselves up to be the transmitters and the trailblazers of new information that can be accessed Kyle James (12:34) Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Sjeanne (12:59) from the field that is ready to be birthed now, that is ready to be bought in now, that is ready to help evolve the rest of humanity and help their clients identify what are the new problems that need to be solved so that we can unstick the confusion and we can unstick the stuckness that is being experienced. Kyle James (13:15) Right. Yeah, that makes sense. So let's just say, like an example, if let's just say I'm a coach and I'm in the coaching space, like how do I adapt to customers who are one using AI that think that, hey, they don't They don't need a coach anymore because like you mentioned, it's fast forwarding, it's got all this AI and it analyzes all this content. As they get these answers, so simple from a click of a button, how do they navigate that? Sjeanne (13:44) So good. I think a lot of it is around, like I said, it's been able to have that contextual understanding. think, for example, if coaches are not understanding these trends in a bigger way. to be honest, I mean, again, I'm going to say I am a coach myself. I've done various coaching diplomas, but I'm also a, I could say a strategist. Coaches really have to develop and cultivate this. Kyle James (13:59) Sure. Sjeanne (14:07) deepened sense of strategizing and navigating a very, very uncertain and complex world and helping their clients to do that by just moving in the direction of the next step. so, becoming really familiar with nutting down, like I say, in the 1 % where do you become in corporate, used to call it the T individual. And I feel like a lot of coaches know a lot of things. And this is not about your niche. This is about like, Kyle James (14:29) Mm-hmm. Sjeanne (14:33) honing really clearly in on your message and a T person is someone who has got like narrow, if you look at the T across narrow focus, but like true depth of knowledge, like, you know, everything about a particular context and all the ins and outs of it. And I feel like a lot of coaches, you know, may be invited into that space of really like honing in your new 1 % because think about an athlete, an athlete gets the top and stays at the top. Why? Because they truly hone in on one thing and they become exceptional at that one thing. 100 meters, know, gymnastics, don't know, or things something called comrades marathon, which is an ultra marathon, but there's a honing in and there's a cultivating golfers, they're honing in and that's it. They're not like spreading themselves thin amongst a lot of things. And I think that the concept of 1 % is the ability to truly hone in and Kyle James (15:19) Hmm. Hmm. Sjeanne (15:30) master and become masters in that 1 % category that you absolutely make it your own. And then you're able to operate within you're able to operate within the context of that. And I want to just extrapolate further. So if you look at something like fintech is financial technology that is disrupting the financial value chains, right? Kyle James (15:51) Mm-hmm. Sjeanne (15:53) Why did fintechs come about and why did something like Bitcoin and stuff like that come about? These things came about because they saw in the value chain of banking, these certain pockets that could be disrupted and be done way simpler and easier. That's the same with coaching. Like we're in the value chain, you just simply hone in and hone in on your 1 % that is so rare because people will pay for the rare and the non-imitable, superior and distinct, superior and distinct. Kyle James (16:04) Mm-hmm. Mm. Sjeanne (16:23) That's how economies work. If you're just doing large volume and like skills based stuff, I'm going to go to AI, I'm going to get truth and I'm going to get it immediately. I don't have to wait for my session. But if I want to pay for that real rare, non-imitable, distinct, superior information that then is then translated in something that creates value. Kyle James (16:31) sure. Sjeanne (16:45) true value in my life now I'm going to pay for it because it's rare. And this is the from commoditized to distinction. And, you know, people who are just who are, and I'm talking just generally businesses to be relevant, superior, and distinct. And, you know, that's where I'd be focusing a lot of my time. And that's where I'd be focusing mastery on myself and my services and my offerings. Kyle James (17:08) Yeah, that's amazing. I love the, the, really diving into like the 1%. And I, I think of so many different examples, like in golf, like you see like the top three people who win money in the, in the, in the masters and like that from the third place to second place, but then like from second to first, that little, just a little bit better average in their shot. They make almost five times more than, or 10 times more than, the other contenders. And I can't, so I think about like, almost like a clock, know, like you can get to the outskirts of a clock, but the moment you get inside the clock where it really matters the most. That's like that 1 % that I like, it just comes to mind. And, and for someone out there, like, especially the coaches, know, coaches who are listening in and yeah, they see the AI and they see the value here. Like what advice would you give them to, to really jump? Sjeanne (17:49) Hmm. Kyle James (18:02) deeper into that 1%, to really press into that 1%, so they are hitting those marks and they're not worried about AI taking their job. You know what mean? Sjeanne (18:04) Mmm. Well, I'm going to challenge the thought of being worried about AI taking their job. It's really taken aspects of their job. I'm an example of a person where I'm not using certain coaches anymore because I get greater value from AI. And it's not about humanity. It's not about like there's something wrong. It really is about what do you need to let go of? So there's a couple of things that come to mind. Kyle James (18:17) Mmm. Mm-hmm. Sure. Mmm. Sjeanne (18:34) is that I believe this is not about a fear mongering. This is about where do need to come more into alignment with the truth of who you are? In other words, I have a saying where I say like power your power and I'm talking about your quantum power is your greatest ability and it's your greatest asset right now. You're accessing and downloading quantum power because part of the rising consciousness is that ability to access more information. coaches have done amazing work. They're so conscious we do, you know, deep work into shadow, we release this, we release that well now you have access to quantum power. Your power to create, for me is a skill, it's not of the future, it's a skill to harness now and I believe that we've moved into so some number one, truly understand what is quantum power? What is quantum? What is the field? What is this actual ability to create? And this goes beyond mindset. I'm not talking about having a strong mindset. I'm talking about accessing this creative power, energetic force, learning to harness it and learning to shape your reality. That is a skill now. Manifestation, all of that. It's not we were anymore. This is like hardcore skill set, but it's an intangible skill set that that people would need to really hone in on. And then it's like getting really clear. I do something called your unique profitability space. That is a space where you own so it's getting really clear in the context of like What have you always done? so differently to other people. What have you, how do you think differently? How do you strategize differently? How does your intuition work? does your, what are your, I want to call them your spiritual superpowers because there are, there's more spiritual technologies that are now available. Teleportation is going to be something that we can all have access to and do. Telepathy, all of these things are available. So people honing in on their 1 % of their spiritual technologies. marrying that to the human distinct skills that they've had in the past leave the rest build out business models that that do commoditize and do it really well store in what I call the contested space. You know, other coaches can do this, I can do it great, I'm going to commoditize that even more and then scale that. But we already want to tune into is identifying what my spiritual technologies are, help your clients identify what their spiritual technologies are, because we are moving in this more conscious world that in itself is getting into the network effect. And then then it's about okay, now how to apply the the human skill set to that to make you know services and products that are that are truly sort of worth paying for in this new evolution. You can throw on top of that I started by saying really understand really understand these trends like if coaches are not engaging with AI this is you can't put your head in the sand this is not about being in Austria you cannot ignore this it is engaging with it engages that in the context of how your clients are working with it, how are they using it, because you're going to see very quickly how it is, as I say, like with fintechs, how it is taking a piece of your lunch, right? And, and that needs to confront you a little bit. It's a healthy process to be confronted with what is my value as a human being. And not then to be afraid of it. But now how do I need to evolve? I can't give that particular answer, because everybody's slightly different. And then secondly, like I say, the women's wealth transfer, how do you start engaging with these contextual trends that and there's this seven or eight of them. So take your pick because you'll have an affinity for one and they're really become a master in helping you know, your clients, your organizations, the people that you serve to master that terrain because there's a huge amount of opportunity that's opening up this is not about opportunity, actually becoming smaller, it's about more and more opportunity opening up. However, I have a saying that I say where I mentioned so power is your currency and trusting yourself as your greatest asset to engage in that world. And trusting yourself trusting your heart and that's a big drop into for clients as well. And for CEOs is like trusting their hearts and intuition. And then I want to say like, I have the saying where, you know, new territory new maps, we don't have the maps yet. And so that's why it's like a baby, we're busy formulating the map. So we are new territory in many instances, we need to cultivate the maps. It is the coach's role to help construct the maps. And then once you have maps for that territory, we then need new roads. And it's the coaches role to be able to help clients carve out the new roads. So new territory needs new maps, see coaches playing a role in helping to shape the map of the new territory shape how organizations need to operate now on this new territory and create new maps, new revenue streams and then you know what are those new roads and pathways to get there. Kyle James (23:29) and helpful and I appreciate the perspective, Sean, for, especially for the coaching community, right? So tell me where, where can people go to maybe learn a little bit more about you and, and, and about your business. Sjeanne (23:41) Yeah. Yeah, great. So I'm at Center of Liberation. I'm doing a big overhaul of my website. So it's a little bit outdated as I do a rebranding process. However, LinkedIn is a great place to connect with me or Facebook. do quite a lot of posts and always offering, whether that's master classes or opportunities for calls or just to have a conversation. I'm passionate about this conversation. I'm passionate about the 1%. This is where I'm at my best and truly sort of helping clients to jump quantum leap time lines because it's possible how to do that and I love to work with people who are open to that space of quantum leaping and shaping and shifting and so just even a conversation, keynote speaking, all of those kind of things you can message me on on LinkedIn or through Facebook are the two primary modalities that I will respond to. Kyle James (24:32) Awesome. Absolutely amazing. And we're going to wrap it up from here. Thank you so much, John, for joining us and sharing more insight about center of liberation and how you're making a huge impact with all the coaches in your space. And remember, if you're a professional training and coaching space and your AI agent is loosening or just miss handling basic conversations, go to gpttrainer.com to learn more how we've helped our clients fine tune the AI agents. Thanks again for listening in. Sjeanne (24:40) Thank you, Carl. Kyle James (24:57) Hope you have a wonderful rest of day and looking forward to seeing you on the next episode of the AI Chronicles.
